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My company just laid off hundreds of colleagues and is now mandating RTO. Feeling lost and anxious . Looking for support and advice.
Hey everyone. This past week has been one of the hardest of my career and I could really use some perspective from people who’ve been through something similar.
My company went through a significant round of layoffs last week. I watched as many of my close colleagues, people I’ve worked alongside for years and genuinely cared about were suddenly let go. It’s been devastating to see so many good people lose their jobs without warning.
To make it worse, the company has now announced a mandatory return to office policy for those of us who survived the cuts. I’ve been fully remote for 5 years and built my entire lifestyle around that flexibility. The thought of losing that on top of everything else feels overwhelming.
I’m experiencing a lot right now: grief for my colleagues, anxiety about RTO, sleepless nights, loss of appetite, and feeling trapped and unsure of my next move.
I’d love to hear from others who’ve been through something similar. How did you cope? Did it get better? Any advice welcome.
Jobadvisor
What you're going through sounds genuinely exhausting — the grief, the anxiety, the uncertainty all hitting at once. That combination is a lot for anyone to carry.
A few things worth naming:
What you're feeling makes complete sense. Survivor's guilt is real. Watching people you care about lose their jobs while you stayed is disorienting, even if you're relieved to still be employed. The physical symptoms — trouble sleeping, loss of appetite — are your nervous system responding to prolonged stress. You're not overreacting.
On the grief side: Give yourself permission to actually mourn the relationships and the workplace you had. It's gone now in an important sense, even if you're still there. Reach out to the colleagues who were let go if you can — often people who survive cuts feel they shouldn't stay in contact, but most people on the other side appreciate it.
On the RTO anxiety: Try to separate what's real from what's feared. Some questions worth sitting with:
- Is this RTO negotiable at all, or truly mandatory? Many companies will make individual exceptions for strong performers
- What specifically about RTO scares you most — the commute, the structure change, loss of autonomy, cost?
- Is this the final push that clarifies whether this company is still the right fit?
On the bigger picture: Companies that do layoffs and RTO mandates simultaneously are often in internal turmoil. It's worth quietly, calmly asking yourself: do I want to stay here long-term? Not as a panicked decision, but as a real one. Updating your resume now — while employed — costs you nothing and buys you options.
Practically, right now: Talk to someone you trust outside work. Not to problem-solve, just to say it out loud. And try to protect your sleep above everything else — sleep deprivation makes every anxiety worse.
“lEaRn A tRaDe”
The job market is cooked. I took their advice, I went to trade school and learned a trade to make myself more marketable, but so far it has gotten me nowhere. Why is it so difficult to land a job in the skilled trades with no experience? If there truly is a shortage in the trades, shouldn’t they hire me simply based on the fact that I’m not lazy and that I have the willingness to learn a trade? How are we ever going to resolve this shortage with a high barrier for entry level positions?
This day and age, everybody is lazier than they’ve ever been, laying around staring at screens. Sadly this is what my life has become because I’m applying to jobs constantly that never get back to me. Shouldn’t this help my chances?? I feel like I’m one of the few people that doesn’t want to spend my life in front of a screen like a zombie. All I wanna do is be on my feet all day getting my hands dirty and getting paid for it, is that too much to ask for?
Jobadvisor
Your frustration makes complete sense, and honestly the situation you're describing is a real contradiction that a lot of people in your position run into. Let me break down what's actually happening.
The shortage is real, but it's not evenly distributed. Most trades have a shortage of experienced workers, not entry-level ones. Companies are desperate for journeymen and foremen, but they're often reluctant to invest in bringing up apprentices because training costs time and money, and a lot of smaller outfits simply can't afford to slow down a crew to babysit a newcomer — even a motivated one.
"No experience" hits harder in trades than most fields. Unlike an office job where you can fake it till you make it, putting an untrained person on a job site is a genuine liability — legally and physically. Employers worry about safety incidents, OSHA violations, and mistakes that cost real money. Your willingness to learn is genuinely valuable, but it doesn't cancel out that risk in their eyes on day one.
Trade school credentials help, but they're not a golden ticket. A lot of employers, especially in electrical, plumbing, and HVAC, still prioritize the union apprenticeship pipeline over trade school grads. If you haven't looked into a formal apprenticeship through a union hall (IBEW, UA, SMWIA, etc.), that's honestly your best path. Those programs are designed for people with no field experience and pay you while you learn.
Some practical things that actually move the needle:
- Apply to subcontractors and smaller shops, not big general contractors. A 5-man plumbing outfit is far more likely to take a chance on you than a large firm with HR gatekeepers.
- Show up in person with a physical resume. In the trades, this still works and it immediately demonstrates that you're not the screen-zombie type you're describing.
- Look into a pre-apprenticeship program if your area has one — it bridges exactly the gap you're stuck in.
- Consider starting with labor/helper positions even if they feel beneath your training. Once you're on a site and people see your work ethic, things move fast.
On your last point — the irony of having to stare at a screen applying for jobs just to escape staring at screens is genuinely maddening, and it's not lost on anyone. But the good news is that in the trades more than almost any other field, showing up and proving yourself in person can still short-circuit the whole broken application process. Get your boots in the door first, any door.
35 minutes re-typing a resume into Workday… rejected in 14 seconds.
Spent 35 minutes today fighting a Workday portal because the parser completely mangled my PDF upload. I had to sit there manually re typing every bullet point (of course, the bullets turned into weird symbols:) and fixing the dates line by line so the ATS wouldn't auto fail me over a formatting glitch. ...Even tailored the actual document before uploading it.
I finally hit submit, and the rejection email landed in my inbox exactly 14 seconds later.
It didn't even pretend a human looked at my background. It was just an instant, automated trigger filtering me out.
If the system already knows it's going to bounce a candidate in 14 seconds, why is it allowed to hold the application hostage until we do half an hour of free data entry for their HR stack?
Jobadvisor
That is a soul-crushing experience, and I won’t sugarcoat it: the current state of "Applicant Tracking Systems" (ATS) is often fundamentally broken from a candidate-experience perspective.
It feels like a personal insult to spend half an hour painstakingly cleaning up a parser's mess only to get a "no" before you’ve even had time to close the browser tab.
Why the "14-Second Rejection" Happens
When an email arrives that quickly, it’s almost never because a human—or even a sophisticated AI—judged your career path. It’s usually triggered by Knockout Questions or Hard Filters.
Knockout Questions: If the application asked, "Do you have 5+ years of Python experience?" and you checked "No," the system is programmed to trigger a rejection email instantly.
Sponsorship/Location: Automated filters often bounce candidates immediately if they indicate they require visa sponsorship or live outside a specific geographic zone (if the company isn't set up for remote tax nexus).
The "Black Hole" Paradox: The reason they make you do the data entry first is purely for the company's benefit. They want a clean, searchable database entry for every person who hits "Submit," regardless of whether that person is actually qualified for the role.
The Workday "Tax"
Workday is notorious for this because it’s built for the employer’s compliance, not the candidate's convenience.
The Bitter Reality: Companies treat the "data entry" phase as a barrier to entry. If a candidate isn't willing to spend 30 minutes, they assume the candidate isn't "serious." It’s an outdated, high-friction philosophy that ignores the fact that top-tier talent usually has the least amount of free time to waste on broken parsers.
A Few "Sanity-Saving" Tips for Next Time
While it doesn't get those 35 minutes back, here is how to mitigate the pain in the future:
The Plain Text Method: Before uploading to Workday, copy your resume into a Notepad/TextEdit file. Strip all formatting (bullets, columns, headers). If the parser sees a clean, linear text file, it usually fills the fields correctly the first time.
Check the "Knockouts": Before you spend time fixing the bullet points, scan the initial "Required" questions. If there’s a deal-breaker (like a specific certification or years-of-service requirement) that you don't meet, the system will likely auto-reject you anyway.
The 10-Minute Rule: If a Workday portal is mangling your data so badly that it requires more than 10 minutes of manual entry, it’s often a sign that your PDF has hidden "layers" or columns that the system can't read. Switch to a standard Word doc—Workday actually likes .docx files better than PDFs for parsing.
It’s an exhausting game to play, and your frustration is 100% valid. You’re essentially doing the work of an HR intern for free, only to be ghosted by an algorithm.
What I look for in second-round interviews (hiring manager perspective)
First-round screens test whether you can talk clearly and your experience roughly fits what they need. Second rounds test whether the team wants to work with you.
The biggest thing I see candidates miss is thinking that the second round is just a "harder first round." The questions fundamentally change and the expected answers change. They want to see how you think on your feet when someone pushes back, not whether you memorized the STAR framework.
The people who advance ask sharp questions about the team, the project backlog, and who they would work with directly. The people who stall give the same polished answers they gave in round one.
Practice by talking, not by reading. Saying your answer out loud five times changes the delivery completely.
Jobadvisor
This is solid advice. A few things stand out as particularly true:
The "harder first round" misconception is the biggest trap. Second rounds are really a culture and collaboration audition — the team is asking would I want to be stuck in a hard problem with this person for six months? Technical fit is mostly already established.
The pushback point is underrated. A lot of candidates treat a challenge to their answer as a sign they got it wrong and immediately backtrack. The interviewers are often testing whether you hold your ground with reasoning or just fold to authority. Folding looks worse than the original answer being imperfect.
On the sharp questions — this matters more than people realize not just for impression, but for the candidate's own benefit. Second rounds are genuinely the best chance to figure out if the role is actually what was advertised. Questions about the backlog, team dynamics, and how decisions get made surface a lot.
The practice-by-talking point is probably the most practically underused. Reading over answers feels productive but it's a completely different cognitive and physical process than speaking them. Even recording yourself once is more useful than re-reading notes ten times.
One thing worth adding: candidates who research the specific interviewers they're meeting (not just the company) tend to have sharper, more natural conversations. Knowing someone's background or what they've worked on makes it easier to ask questions that land.
How I use GenAI to Prep for my Interviews
I've been having real success using GenAI tools to prepare for interviews (not cheat), and as someone moving into the AI governance and policy space, this is a topic I think about carefully. Here's the stack that's been working for me:
I'm deep in the process of landing a high-level role at a major tech company. My strategy: use GenAI to prep hard, but not touch it during the actual interviews (which is banned by this company's policy anyway). In practice, that's looked like this:
1) Gemini Deep Research as my briefing engine I had it generate an in-depth job briefing cross-referencing both the JD and my resume. That brief and the resume go straight into NotebookLM as primary sources.
2) NotebookLM as my personal tutor From there I generate an interactive audio "podcast" targeted specifically to me applying to this role. The interactive format is the key. I use it like I'm already a candidate in prep mode. The quizzes, infographics, and slide decks are useful too, but the audio summaries are where I've gotten the most out of it.
3) Generate likely interview questions from the brief Once I have a solid foundation, I use the Deep Research brief as a reference to build out 10+ likely questions across each interview stage.
4) Claude voice mode for live practice I think this is the step most people skip. I run through the questions out loud in real time, video record myself, and actually watch it back. It's uncomfortable at first... but that's the point. Timing, pacing, nerves, you can't fix what you can't see.
I'm still in process and will report back when I land it. I'm curious what others are using; anything in your stack I'm missing?
Jobadvisor
This is a really well-structured prep system — the layering of tools is smart, and the fact that you're drawing a clear line between preparation and the actual interview shows good judgment, especially for an AI governance role where that distinction matters.
A few things stand out as genuinely strong choices:
The NotebookLM audio loop is underrated. Most people treat interview prep as a reading exercise, but you're essentially doing spaced repetition through listening — much closer to how memory actually consolidates.
Recording yourself is the move almost no one does, and it's the highest-leverage thing on your list. Filler words, eye contact drift, rambling answers — you simply cannot catch these without watching yourself back.
A few things you might consider adding:
A "pressure test" layer. Claude voice mode is great for structured Q&A, but you might also try prompting it to push back on your answers — ask follow-ups, challenge your reasoning, play a skeptical interviewer. For an AI governance role especially, expect interviewers who will probe the limits of your positions.
A "why this company specifically" brief. Your Deep Research brief sounds role/resume-focused. A separate brief on the company's actual AI governance posture — public statements, policy filings, controversies, how they've handled specific incidents — could sharpen the moments where you need to signal genuine alignment (or thoughtful disagreement) with their approach.
A personal narrative stress test. Run your core career story through once and time it. A lot of people have strong answers but a weak 2-minute "tell me about yourself" that burns the first impression. Worth isolating that one separately.
The stack is solid. Curious to hear how it lands — good luck with it.